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    No One Wins In The Joe Stack Tragedy

    mountaingirl/NM
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    Post  mountaingirl/NM Sat 20 Feb 2010, 3:44 pm

    http://www.rense.com/general89/none.htm

    I thought this was an excellent piece on the tragedy of Joe Stack...-mg

    By Devvy
    2-20-10

    Old Joe also killed an innocent person in that building. Allegedly, that fatality was an IRS employee. Hooray. Old Joe did the "mission accomplished" his way, but it won't change one single IRS regulation.
    He also badly injured 13 people - two are in critical condition because of massive burns. You know, from the fuel burning their flesh to a crisp. People who suffer those kinds of massive burns experience pain that is almost impossible to describe; then sometimes years of surgery.
    Although it's reported that none of those people work for the IRS, I'm not 100% certain at this time. But, those injured don't make IRS laws or regulations. That is the domain of Congress. Pukin' senators like Charles Grassley. Hell, many of the injured might even feel the same way as old Joe: Plucked clean in taxes.
    Joe burned his house to the ground leaving his wife and 12 year old daughter homeless and to fend for themselves.
    Think his wife will be able to get their insurance company to pay off? Fat chance.
    While Joe is sorting things out with God, he left his family with a horrible situation.
    His legacy to his daughter is that he killed an innocent person, injured 13 other people; two in critical condition. Gee, that was my dad! You saw him on the news, perhaps you even saw the funeral of the person he killed or the two people who had their flesh burned so badly!
    We're all frustrated and angry. ALL of us want the IRS abolished and a return to constitutional revenues for a limited form of republican government.
    Killing innocent people is not the answer, but I suppose Joe simply couldn't take it anymore and instead of quietly taking some sleeping pills and posting his manifesto, better to kill innocent people along the way and leave his family to take the heat and shame.
    Some on Facebook are heralding Stack as a hero:
    "And some people on Facebook couldn't agree more. "Finally an American man took a stand against our tyrannical government that no longer follows the Constitution," wrote Emily Walters of Louisville, Ky."

    Yes. As expected the lame stream media and cable are painting Stack as a domestic terrorist and a "troubled individual." That is to be expected and Joe gave them a juicy hunk to promote and attack all of us working so hard to get the solutions implemented. Those statements on Facebook give gasbags like Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews even more fodder.
    But, I ask you: Do you declare war on those who have no role in policy or law making?
    Is this not what those suicide bombers in the Middle East do? Blow up dozens of people at a restaurant or people just riding a bus, to make their statement?
    Tourists at an outdoor restaurant or even locals stopping for some coffee and conversation. Riding the bus to church or work and they get blown to bits or burnt to a crisp and live, because some group wants to make a statement.
    We condemn that, but because it's an American who hated the IRS, Stack is a hero?

    (full commentary at link)
    Dreemz
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    Post  Dreemz Sat 20 Feb 2010, 5:56 pm

    Very very sad, disheartening,

    NO Hero! just more domestic terrorism.

    So many Americans are as mad as hell and as frustrated as hell
    like he was...

    No one likes the government anymore, but taking your own life and killing innocent people is certainly NOT the answer Sad

    Now we have young teens killing themselves, committing suicide
    over being bullied at schools, when does it ever END! Sad
    Betty in Texas
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    Post  Betty in Texas Sat 20 Feb 2010, 6:35 pm

    Stack was a desperate deranged sick man who had got fed up with the system. He is not a hero but at the same time his act does show us the need to reform the idiocracy in Washington.

    What each of us can do in his own way to help the situation is to vote OUT the old devious/self-ingratiating/self-serving regime and VOTE IN new blood who have been not long in the political field...matters not whether it is Dem, Rep or Tea Party as long as it is NEW to the position. Get rid of those who have skimmed the butterfat off the milk for themselves. That is a beginning of the answer to our problem...IMHO!
    Betty
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    Post  RIG Sun 21 Feb 2010, 12:42 am

    No, maybe not a Hero... but will probably be made a Martyr... to some... Neutral
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    Post  jeffersonzuma Sun 21 Feb 2010, 2:45 am

    But, I ask you: Do you declare war on those who have no role in policy or law making?
    Is this not what those suicide bombers in the Middle East do? Blow up dozens of people at a restaurant or people just riding a bus, to make their statement?
    Tourists at an outdoor restaurant or even locals stopping for some coffee and conversation. Riding the bus to church or work and they get blown to bits or burnt to a crisp and live, because some group wants to make a statement.


    this similarity and so much possible evidence being torched (the house, the plane, the building..) must raise suspicions and questions.. although some simple, constant mental-feedback to head is bound to trigger someone. What isn't congruent with the archetype of a patriot is what he left for his family to deal with.. if you hope for a better life on the other side you certainly would want your other responsibilities taken care of before transitioning.
    RIG
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    Post  RIG Sun 21 Feb 2010, 5:13 am

    Just finished reading the manifesto... Shocked

    Uh-oh, I must be as off the deep end as he was, I found myself agreeing with much of his social and System commentary... silent

    I have to say though, I don't approve of his Action... yet, the more I hear about this story, there's something else about all this that doesn't sit right
    in my noggin... Suspect

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